This would include the citizens of the great Gentile nation of the latter days, the United States of America, though many of those citizens are blood descendants of the house of Israel. 2 Nephi 32. 2 Ne. BOOK OF MORMON AUDIO LINK http://lds.org/scriptures/bofm?lang=enghttp://ComeUntoChrist.orghttp://ChurchofJesusChrist.org Certainly this was an attempted gathering when the Lord "set his hand" to gather Israel. These apostate characteristics have infiltrated the world's churches and every institution of human endeavor. The translation of the book would be a miraculous event, part of the Lord’s “marvelous work and a wonder” (2 Nephi 27:26). Watch Queue Queue Read 2 Nephi 29:1-6. If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? verse 4 Here is the Lord's warning to the "Gentiles" of the last days-the "day of the Gentile." 10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written. Here the term "Gentile" is likely best interpreted as any non-Jew who is a candidate to be gathered back to the fold or church of God. Then they migrated en masse to the north about 65 BC. This chapter describes Satan's latter-day attack on the Book of Mormon. See the commentary for the previous verse for reflections on the identity of the "Gentiles.". The verse then tantalizes us by suggesting the eventual coming forth of yet a fourth record, that of "all nations of the earth." 11:6; D&C 55:1; Moses 6:44. Many Gentiles will reject the Book of Mormon—They will say, We need no more Bible—The Lord speaks to many nations—He will judge the world out of the books which will be written. 2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel; verse 2 "the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father" The Lord extends the Abrahamic covenant to the posterity of the Book of Mormon people. 28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! One thought on “ 2 Nephi 29: 6-7 ” dan says: August 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM This blog has been a feast. 2 Nephi 29: 8 : "Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? That blessing fell to Nephi, to whom Jacob and Joseph were to look for leadership (see 1 Nephi 2:21-22; 3:29; 2 Nephi 2:3; 3:25; 5:19-20). It turned out to be, however, a gathering that did not fully succeed. 2 Nephi 3. One of the definitions of hiss in Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language is, "To whiz, as an arrow or other thing in rapid flight." "O fools, they shall have a Bible" The Lord refers to the people of the latter day. . By the time we arrive at this point in the scripture, Nephi has already prophesied that the whole world in the last days will be engulfed in apostasy. It is especially valuable because it has been hidden in the earth for centuries, and it still contains its original purity and plainness. It is used to show the Book of Mormon already anticipated an argument against it, … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 3 → Gen. 12:2 (1–3); 1 Ne. Thus, the lost tribes are those who are "lost from the knowledge of those who are at Jerusalem" (1 Nephi 22:4). 2 Nephi 29; 2 Nephi 30; 2 Nephi 31; 2 Nephi 32; 2 Nephi 33; Jacob; Enos; Jarom; Omni; Words of Mormon; Mosiah; Alma; Helaman; 3 Nephi; 4 Nephi; Mormon; Ether; Moroni; 2 Nephi 25. . . verse 6 The Lord is still condemning those latter-day "Gentiles" who claim to accept the Bible yet maintain prejudices against the Jews, the very people that gave us the Bible. Examples today of the application of this law might include the testimony of Christ in the Bible and the Book of Mormon; the three and eight witnesses of the Book of Mormon plates; the witness, in the meridian of time, of both Jesus Christ and John the Baptist-both sealed by their blood; the martyrdom of both Hyrum and Joseph Smith; the invariable presence of another individual with Joseph Smith when priesthood keys were restored; and the sending out of missionaries two by two. When Joseph finished his inspired revision of the Old Testament, he inquired of the Lord on March 9, 1833, as to whether or not he should translate or revise these apocryphal books. January 1, 2017. One condition for this proper establishment is that the truth satisfies the law of witnesses. 12 For behold, I shall speak unto the aJews and they shall bwrite it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall cwrite it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto dall nations of the earth and they shall write it. Perhaps the record of the lost tribes will be the same. These are the written records of "the Jews" (the Bible), "the Nephites" (the Book of Mormon), and "the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away"-obviously the ten lost tribes. 102:28; D&C 132:30; Moses 7:52 (50–53). At the time of Moses, the Lord set his hand the first time to lead his people out of captivity in Egypt to their land of inheritance in Palestine. Perhaps Jesus's phrase "from one end of heaven to the other" corresponds to Moses's "out unto the outmost parts of heaven.". But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God. And they shall perish. Nephi puts them in charge of teaching the people. No phrase better sums up how we should treat our Maker. 2 Nephi 29:6-8 Thou fool that shall say, a Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. In Deuteronomy 31:4 Moses addresses scattered Israel and implies that a part of scattered Israel may even be located somewhere outside of this earth: "If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee" (italics added). We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. About 559–545 B.C. This chapter describes Satan's latter-day attack on the Book of Mormon. 2 Nephi 3. 2 Nephi 27. It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). 2 Nephi 12. 3:12; 33:10 (10–11). The Lord is still condemning those latter-day "Gentiles" who claim to accept the Bible yet maintain prejudices against the Jews, the very people that gave us the Bible. 2 Nephi 29:13 The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. TG Bible; Book of Mormon. Tag: 2 Nephi 29 What I learned. verse 3 Here the term "Gentile" is likely best interpreted as any non-Jew who is a candidate to be gathered back to the fold or church of God. . The record then continues: "And an highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep" (D&C 133:27). [John A. Tvedtnes, "Firstborn in the Wilderness," in Pressing Forward with the Book of Mormon , F.A.R.M.S., 1999, pp. "end of man" This verse is a statement on the constancy and eternal nature of God. This law simply stated is: "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" (, "when the two nations shall run together". (2) There are also many things contained therein that are not true but are the false traditions of men. 2 For I, Nephi, have not taught them many things concerning the manner of the Jews; for their a works were works of darkness, and their doings were doings of abominations. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. 2 Nephi 27 interprets Isaiah 29 to describe the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. ", This expression originated with the prophet Isaiah and is found in, "my covenants which I have made unto the children of men", This phrase refers to the Abrahamic covenant the details of which can be reviewed in the commentary for, "that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people", This same expression is used a few times in the book of Second Nephi. According to Esdras at some point in time the ten tribes divided into two groups. These chapters are slightly different from other Isaiah quotes. It could refer to the time when each and every one of the spirit children of God-those who belong to our round of creation-has been dispatched to this mortal earth to one of the other worlds in this round of the Father's creation. “Wo unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord!” Isaiah said. That is, the Book of Mormon will serve as a signal, a standard, a flag, or a rallying point for those elect of the house of Israel who will gather in that day. Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Perhaps the Lord refers here to his mortal ministry as the "first time" he set his hand to recover his people. "the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews", The expression "lost tribes" is found in only two verses of scripture, here and in, It is obvious that the latter-day gathering and restoration of Israel will also include a gathering, into one, of the three major scriptural testimonies of Christ. 9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. 3 Nephi 26:19. Their respective scriptural records (the Bible and the Book of Mormon) shall function together in the last days. 2 Nephi 11. What are the perceptions of the Gentiles relative to the Bible and its origins? 5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? God will proceed to do "a marvelous work" (the Book of Mormon) and remember Nephi's seed (the Mormons), and the words of Nephi's seed will proceed out of God's mouth. But they took this counsel among themselves that they would leave the multitudes of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt. Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? It should be obvious that even when a truth is established according to the law of witnesses and is thus "proven," it may well not be proven in a tangible worldly or scientific sense. In latter-day scripture we read: "And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves" (D&C 133:26). The implication seems to be that the record of the Jews, the Bible, contains revelation intended primarily for the people of the Old World. This video is unavailable. verse 12 There are to be at least three major scriptural testimonies of Christ that will eventually come forth. The meaning of this verse is clear. 3 Nephi. It is touching to reflect on the Lord's persistent dedication and patience which he evidences for his wayward children-especially his "chosen," those who were especially valiant in the premortal world. 2 Nephi 2. Miracles, spiritual gifts, and revelation are always available to the true followers of Christ. TG Abrahamic Covenant. Have not sought to recover them--as in have not tried to help them return to Israel and displace the Palestinians living there? built a city that was called the City of Holiness, even Zion . A Bible! Jarom. . His rationalization might sound something like: "A Book of Mormon! This combined scriptural record will "show unto them that fight against my word . The fundamental problem is hypocrisy, which is a form of dishonesty: pretending to believe in God, saying the right things and appearing to be religious when in fact, your heart isn’t in it. 3:16; Moses 1:40. BOOK OF MORMON AUDIO LINK http://lds.org/scriptures/bofm?lang=enghttp://ComeUntoChrist.orghttp://ChurchofJesusChrist.org 2 Nephi 29 Chapter 29 Many Gentiles will reject the Book of Mormon—They will say, We need no more Bible—The Lord speaks to many nations—He will judge the world out of the books which will be written. 2 Nephi 17. 9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the asame yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my bwords according to mine own pleasure. After all, the keys of gathering were given by Moses to Peter, James, and John on the Mount of Transfiguration at that time (Matthew 17:1-9). There are, abounding in the world, wickedness, priestcraft, pride, false teachings, and worldly wisdom in place of revelation. Also contained in this verse are instructions as to how we ought to regard the Jews today. And what cthank they the dJews for the Bible which they receive from them? Is there a separate body of the scattered ten tribes that live together somewhere? Edited by Edward L. Kimball, [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft], 1982, 46). 2 Nephi 14. "the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews" The expression "lost tribes" is found in only two verses of scripture, here and in 3 Nephi 17:4. 2. 27:26. About 559–545 B.C. The Lord in D&C 91 gave him, in essence, the following answer which is the position of the Church on the Apocrypha: (1) These books contain many things which are true, and they are mostly translated correctly. One verse of scripture suggests that "north countries" refers to a place beyond the four corners of the earth: " . In this setting, the Book of Mormon comes forth by miraculous means and through an unsophisticated prophet to provide guidance to those who have faith. 2 Nephi 4. 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? 2 Tim. For a more complete discussion of the heresy of sola scriptura, see Ye Shall Know of the Doctrine, volume 4, chapters 7, 8, and 9: Scriptural Canon-Should It Be Open or Closed?, Continuing Revelation and Modern Scripture, and The Question of Scriptural Inerrancy. This is the doctrine of, "For I command all men . The classic example is the City of Enoch: "And Enoch . Isa. February 13, 2020. The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. 2 Ne 9:31-2 wo unto the deaf that will not hear When Jacob is warning the deaf and the blind, he is obviously referring to those who are spiritually deaf and spiritually blind. 1) “A … powerful testimony to the importance of the Book of Mormon is to note where the Lord placed its coming forth in the timetable of the unfolding Restoration. Instead of quoting Isaiah directly, Nephi is writing his own sermon which quotes Isaiah heavily, and in many instances verbatim. If the Lord is going to set his hand a "second" time to gather Israel, then when was the first time the Lord "set his hand to recover his people"? About 559–545 B.C. Not only do we have the Bible and the Book of Mormon and the other standard works of the Church, but we as a people look forward to additional sacred scripture which will eventually be restored to the earth (D&C 93:18; D&C 107:57, Ether 4:7). A Bible! The marvelous work and a wonder which the Lord brings to pass in the last days is the establishment of the kingdom of God on earth, the gathering of Israel, and the fulfillment of the covenants that the Lord has made with the ancient prophets. Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth? verse 14 It is obvious that the latter-day gathering and restoration of Israel will also include a gathering, into one, of the three major scriptural testimonies of Christ. This week was a whirlwind! A-A; A+; 2 Ne 25:1 Isaiah spake many things which were hard for many of my people to understand. The Lord’s solution is compassionate and respectful: teach them. See also 2 Nephi 6:14, 2 Nephi 21:11, and 2 Nephi 25:17. 3 The book would come forth with the words of “them which have slumbered” (v. 6). Certainly every modern-day missionary has encountered this objection to our Church's non-biblical standard works. The topic was “the witness of two nations”– referring to 2 Nephi 29:7-9 which talks about how the Bible and the Book of Mormon work together. Furthermore they would pronounce a malediction upon anyone who would contend otherwise, often quoting Revelation 22:18: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (even most orthodox Christians today admit the apostle John had in mind only his own book when he wrote this verse-see also Deuteronomy 4:2). 2 Nephi 29: 12: “For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 12 → He is also condemning those who feel that the Bible alone is sufficient scripture to settle all questions of religion. As long as we are "Bible bashing" with the sectarian world, why not bring up a verse written by the very same author who wrote the verse in Revelation 22: "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written" (John 21:25). 2 Nephi 5. 26:15). 2 Nephi 5. . Chapter 29: "A Cankerous Work and a Blunder" Chapter Summary: Many Gentiles will reject the Book of Mormon--They will say, We need no more Bible--The Lord speaks to many nations--He will judge the world out of the books which will be written. The real meaning of the scripture is that the commandments of God should not be altered. Here is the Lord's warning to the "Gentiles" of the last days-the "day of the Gentile." As a result of this migration they eventually settled in Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Holland, England, and France. But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; Evidence. The verse then tantalizes us by suggesting the eventual coming forth of yet a fourth record, that of "all nations of the earth." Words of Mormon. Isaiah 29 is one of the most often cited scriptural passages of the Restoration. 13 And it shall come to pass that the aJews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the blost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews. Reference Search: 2 Nephi 9:28-29. There will be no escape. 14 And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the ahouse of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the blands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in cone. 5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? This book indicates that the ten tribes, after they had been taken captive into Assyria, eventually decided to migrate north to a land which had never before been inhabited: Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land at the time of Osea, the king, whom Salmanasar, the king of Assyria, led away captive, and he carried them over the waters [Euphrates and Tigris Rivers] and so came they into another land. The Nephite nation was indeed destroyed according to the words of Nephi in a manner similar to the destruction of Jerusalem . The possibility of a separate record of scripture coming forth from the "lost" ten tribes of Israel is problematic. Isn't it exciting to consider and speculate regarding these other records? Alma. TG Israel, Gathering of; Israel, Restoration of. 2 Nephi 4. A-A; A+; 2 Ne 2:2 he shall consecrate thine afflictions for thy gain. This would include the citizens of the great Gentile nation of the latter days, the United States of America, though many of those citizens are blood descendants of the house of Israel. He is also condemning those who feel that the Bible alone is sufficient scripture to settle all questions of religion. From chapters 6-10 they quote much of Isaiah, Nephi even explains how the words of Isaiah will slowly come to understanding as time goes on… for they are difficult to understand without the spirit. Certain books will be used both as a standard and as a witness in the final judgment. "when the two nations shall run together" What are the "two nations"? One of the definitions of. 11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written. It is obvious that the central thrust of this verse is that the Bible and the Book of Mormon function together to satisfy the law of witnesses. This particular verse leaves open the possibility that several other records may have been written and may yet come forth. While we may have come to regard them, as a culture, to be refractory to the gospel message until the Lord's second coming, we must love them and never cease our efforts to win them over to the fulness of the gospel-to "recover them.". Miracles, spiritual gifts, and revelation are always available to the true followers of Christ. 2 Nephi 15. The meaning of the phrase "end of man" is unclear. TG Jesus Christ, Judge. . Do you not know that all people of the earth are my children and are entitled to hear my words? 1 But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a amarvelous work among them, that I may remember my bcovenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the csecond time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; 2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the awords of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall bhiss forth unto the cends of the earth, for a dstandard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel; 3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A aBible! "for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world", It may be true that a man who has not heard the law or had a chance to understand it will be judged lightly until he had that chance (. However, this phrase makes clear that the old saw, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse," is ultimately applicable. (Isaiah 51:10). 2 Nephi 10. Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? See especially 2 Nephi 29:10–14: “Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written. Ne… Joseph Smith said one of the principal reasons the wicked will be cleansed from the earth is to make room "from the lost tribes of Israel from the north country" (TPJS, 1973 edition, 17). 2 Nephi 29 A Bible! There are literally hundreds of pieces of ancient literature which have been discovered that are as old as the Old Testament books in our Bible. “What Thank They the Jews”? 2 Nephi 2 Chapter 2 Redemption comes through the Holy Messiah—Freedom of choice (agency) is essential to existence and progression—Adam fell that men might be—Men are free to choose liberty and eternal life. We have come to apply this counsel more widely than to just the Apocrypha. 13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews. 2 Nephi 29:7 I think this is a good thing to remember, as nations and individuals. 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